The Orders of Chivalry for AGOT (sub-mod for 3rd party mod) | The Citadel: A Game of Thrones Mod (2024)

One of my favourite non-AGOT mods is 'The Orders of Chivalry' by modder Maal, who also does The Great Trade League.

Both of his mods as well as The Sufi Schools (not relevant to AGOT) can be found at the Paradox forum in his thread.

OOC adds multiple societies for holy orders as well as some extra fighter's guilds, and uses its own duel engine to simulate character combat. Combat is used both as a means to advance in the society, as well as against enemies. For example members of the fighters guilds added by the mod can duel to advance in rank, or to collect bounties: any ruler can place a bounty on the head of an enemy, and a fighter can try to duel them to the death to collect it. This can lead to unique trophies or stolen weapons.

While The Great Trade League just works with AGOT and the generic fighter societies of the Orders of Chivalry also work, I felt there could be more done with it.

So I've made a sub-mod for OOC for use with AGOT, that turns the Warrior's Sons and Poor Fellows into societies if these orders have been created / the Faith Militant has been restored.

This has two main effects:

1) Makes the Faith Militant a bit stronger by adding the combat stuff to the societies: high ranking members will have high dueling skills

2) Gives Westeros players another society to join and roleplay in.

Sadly, it isn't save game compatible as the Orders of Chivalry mod defaults to having the Europe-centric guilds active.

But if you can edit your save AND the Faith Militant is not active yet, you can add it to a running game by adding these two game_rules to the top of the save:

chivalry_rule_fight="extra"
chivalry_rule_holy="none"

Unfortunately Faith Militant are there, but it's not worth the hassle, i liked that save but i'm eager to start a new one with this submod, thanks Erbkaiser!

Talking about the main mod here, since my mod is basically just a patch to make it work with AGOT and get it working for the Faith Militant:

It's going to be hard to edit it as the combat skill increase is a core design element of the mod -- the more you fight and win, the better at fighting you get!

One of my (longer-term) plans is to check *everything* related to combat in the AGOT mod and make sure it plays well with OOC. Maybe even wholesale replace the old duel system with the new one from OCC, as I like it a lot more.

Ah, gotcha, well i'm way more used to Old combat system as i've been playing with it for years lol. guess i'll have to get used to the boosts even though they can be a bit absurd, i saw plenty of society members with 500+ PCS 55 years in, i was dumbstruck lmao.

One thing to keep in mind is that with the OOC duelling system, combat skill isn't everything. If you fight strategically you can still defeat just about anyone.

But it is one thing I'm going to look over in more detail once I have everything working for AGOT 2.0, to make sure the mod isn't unbalancing the rest too much. One of the things I'm looking into is seeing if I can tie the King's Guard, Night's Watch, and other military societies into this system so they also can benefit from the combat experience.

Hehe, like the warrior sons taking and hoarding all those precious valyriansteel swords? ^-^

More a problem with the warrior guilds and the bounty system, but yeah I was just doing a quick Egg's Conkery game and before I even got to the North and Dorne, both Ice and Dawn had ended up with random people...

First things first, I love this mod!

However, I find that almost all of my children join the warriors guild and die in a duel. It’s kind of annoying when all 3 of your sons die by duel lol.

How would I edit the sub-mod files to reduce the chance of death to zero?

Thanks in advance!